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Veterans Say, It's Time for an Honor and Remember Flag in NH

Push made at the Statehouse to approve display five times a year.

Veterans and their supporters are promoting an effort at the Statehouse to have the Honor and Remember flag displayed in the state of New Hampshire at least five times a year and when any soldier dies in combat.

Paul Lloyd of the VFW 1631 in Concord, along with former gubernatorial candidate Karen Testerman and Susan Peterson, who are heading up the Honor and Remember NH Chapter, are pushing for officials to re-consider a bill that was rejected last year to allow the flag to be flown in the state.

The plan is to have the Honor and Remember flag flown at the Statehouse five days a year: On NH Gold Star Mother’s Day (the Sunday after Easter), Memorial Day, Independence Day, POW/MIA Recognition Day, and Veterans Day, if approved. The flag would also be flown any time a service member dies. A flag would also fly at the State Veterans Cemetery in Boscawen every day.

Currently, there is a Gold Star Mothers banner that is displayed but a flag, Lloyd said, would be added respect to the process of honoring those soldiers who had lost their lives in combat.

“We don’t have anything to honor Gold Star families,” he said. “The Honor and Remember flag would be the national symbol to remember the losses in war time.”

George Lutz, the person promoting the flags, lost his son in Iraq in 2007, and has been trying to get the flag displayed in every state. So far, 14 states have adopted the flag, with eight endorsing the idea. Most of the other states have efforts underway in their Legislatures.

It’s not law here in New Hampshire because the previous bill was killed in committee, according to Lloyd, based on “misleading information” about the Honor and Remember flag. He said there was discussion that the flag would replace the American flag, something that isn’t true.

“Nobody is going to carry it into battle or anything,” he said.

There is also an issue of Lutz not wanting to give up the trademark for the flag, which has caused some problems with getting Congressional approval. Lloyd said Lutz wants to ensure that the flags are made in the USA and not overseas, so he is not relinquishing the trademark and only approves certain vendors to make the flags. Lloyd noted that POW/MIA flags are made anywhere and everywhere, even Vietnam, the place where many soldier's remains remain.

The flags can also be personalized with the name of the fallen solider and the date he or she was born and killed, he said.

Lloyd said getting the Honor and Remember flag approved in the state and flown on the days it would be presented would also be a “conversation starter” about why officials fly the flag at half-staff, why there is a Pledge of Allegiance, and other remembrances.

“They fly it at half-staff for everything," he said. "It ticked so many people off that the president ordered the flag at half-staff for Whitney Houston. That was a disgrace. That dishonored everyone who had protected the flag and honored the flag (in my) personal opinion.”

Lloyd said it would be an opportunity to change the focus on why the flag is flown at half-staff in the future, he said.

“As a society, we do not teach flag etiquette,” he said. “We’ve lost that. The Pledge of Allegiance is optional. The younger generation doesn’t really have the respect for the flag, generalizing.”

According to Peterson and Lloyd, state Sen. Sharon Carson, R-Londonderry, and state Sen. Jeanie Forrester, R-Meredith, will be re-sponsoring the bill this year.

“We’re trying to get all the support we can to get it passed,” he said.

So far in New Hampshire, eight personalized flags have been presented to families with three more to be presented in the coming months, according to Peterson.

“To remember the fallen is to honor them,” Lloyd said. “That’s what the New Hampshire chapter believes.”

Lenny Hall January 24, 2013 at 02:28 PM
How can we acquire one to display ?
Paul Boore January 24, 2013 at 07:17 PM
I, too, support the Honor and Remember flag. While it will never replace Old Glory, and never was intended to, this flag drives home the point that someone gave his or her life in battle for our country. That is a humbling thought.
Rep Al Baldasaro January 25, 2013 at 02:11 AM
The Honor & Remember Flag, a great idea for the family of the Fallen Veteran, please keeps in mind, Veterans, serve under the American flag and die with the American flag on our casket. Gold Star Mom's can fly their personal flag at their home. This flag has divided the Veteran community throughout the country because many Veterans believe we live by the American Flag and die by the flag which identify those Warriors who shed blood for our freedoms throughout many wars. Just take a walk through the Hall of Flags in Concord and see the blood on the flags that have been carried in wars by our NH Veterans. Legislators have adopted the US Flag Code, signed by the governor. This flag has not been adopted by the Congress and enter into the code. When Washington DC pass's the Flag, then we should adopt it but the bill has not moved in over 3 years in Congress for lack of support. As a retired US Marine and the former Chair of the State-Federal Relations and Veteran Affairs Committee, I cannot support this flag and my professional/personal feelings is the Honor and Remember Flag should be flown at the Gold Star Mothers home proudly and when we drive by, we will salute the family of that home, like we do when we pass by the American flag. I am one who went to war and sent a son to war and believe that we do Honor our Warriors who were killed on the battlefield in many wars by the American Flag. R/S AL Baldasaro State Representative 1StGT, USMC Retired
Rep Al Baldasaro January 25, 2013 at 03:49 AM
The price for the Honor and Remember flag (3X5 hand stitched), personalized is $350.00, see http://www.honorandremember.info/Personalized-Flag-Presentation-Sponsorship-Designated_p_52.html Check the 3X5 American Flag prices that are American made at $25.70, see prices at http://www.united-states-flag.com/comtab.html Hand stitched 3X5 American flags $47.95, see http://www.flagsconnections.com/American-Flag-3ft-x-5ft-sewn-cotton-USA35C.htm;jsessionid=EFA02C37DA8E34E28B9B8E46A9CA7D03.qscstrfrnt04?gclid=CJyqtdXLgrUCFUWo4AodnBkAyA The cost of the Honor and Remember Flag is real expensive. AL
Rep Al Baldasaro January 25, 2013 at 03:51 AM
The price for the Honor and Remember flag (3X5 hand stitched), personalized is $350.00. Check the 3X5 American Flag prices that are American made at $25.70. Hand stitched 3X5 American flags $47.95, see The cost of the Honor and Remember Flag is real expensive. AL
ML Paquette January 27, 2013 at 07:43 PM
I am a Veteran and don't feel the need for another flag, the American Flag works just fine!
Susan Peterson March 08, 2013 at 11:09 PM
The SB88 is for flying the flag 5 days out of the year (only at the State House under the NH State Flag, at the State Veterans Cemetery daily under the NH State Flag at the State House if there is a NH casualty. There is NO COST to the State for the flag as the NH Chapter is buying the flag(s). The cost for a 3x5 flag is $50.00. This bill has nothing to do with personalized flags. The Honor and Remember Flag is specific to those heroes that have died in service to their country...just as the POW/MIA Flag is specific to those that are POW/MIA's. Please email me at nhchapter@honorandremember.org for the correct information on the flag and not that which is not true. Thank you and I hope that you will support those that have died from NH and their families and let them know we will never forget. TO REMEMBER IS TO HONOR...
Rep AL Baldasaro March 09, 2013 at 02:35 AM
Since we adopted the US Flag code, we should adopt this flag when congress passes legislation with proper procedures and protocols like the MIA/POW flag. We Veterans serve and die under the American flag, no other flag represents the blood that was shed for freedom. AL BALDASARO 1StSgt USMC Retired
Susan Peterson March 09, 2013 at 11:04 AM
The US Flag code has nothing to do with Honor and Remember or anyother flag, POW/MIA, Marine Corp, Army, Navy, Air Force, etc. The HB132 that was passed in 2011 US Flag Code - talks about when the US Flag should fly at half-staff, etc. Since when does Live Free or Die - a ​ sovereign state - New Hampshire wait for the Federal govenment to do anything??? Here we are at rallies around this country talking about our Constitution and those that have died to protect it...we should embrace the Honor and Remember Flag - especially now - to bring more awareness of what we owe as a Nation. My grandfather, father, mother and father-in-law, sons (one who deployed to Iraq and came home), brother have all served during War. The Honor and Remember flag is specific as the other flags...POW/MIA, Marine, Navy, Army, Air Force, Coast Guard - to remember specifically those that paid the ultimate sacrifice for Al, me, all and breath deep the air of freedom! When these conflicts end, the Gold Star Banner that is in so many homes, will be removed. May we let the Gold Star Families across this nation know that to REMEMBER IS TO HONOR. Indiana this week became the 15th State to adopt the Honor and Remember Flag. I am grateful that Indiana, Delaware, Louisiana, North Carolina, Maryland, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Utah, Virginia, Kansas, Arizona, Missouri, South Carolina and New Jersey have voted in their states to show all their citizens that they will not forget. Thank you-Susan
Susan Peterson March 09, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Lenny - You can contact me at nhchapter@honorandremember.org - I will get a flag to you. Thank you for your support.
Rep AL Baldasaro March 09, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Susan, We will agree to disagree on this issue. I will srand by the US Flag which is the best symbol in my opinion thar reminds all of us about the that blood shed in many wars and we will never forget. Just my opinion,
Susan Peterson March 09, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Just passed in Kentucky! Be it resolved by the House of Representatives of the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Kentucky: Section 1. The House of Representatives supports Honor and Remember, Inc., and their effort to adopt the Honor and Remember Flag as a symbol honoring all fallen members of the United States Armed Forces and urges the United States Congress to adopt this flag as a national symbol of remembrance. Section 2. The Clerk of the House of Representatives is directed to transmit one copy of this Resolution to each member of the Kentucky Congressional delegation. Congratulations Kentucky!! TO REMEMBER IS TO HONOR!!!
Susan Peterson March 09, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Al - I do agree that we do not see eye to eye on the Honor and Remember Flag. I do respect your opinions and those of any others - supportive or not. We are just asking for 5 days to bring to the forefront of all that see the Honor and Remember flag (just at the State Houe under the NH State Flag) on those days to remember the fallen; each day at the Veterans Cemetery in Boscawen and under the State of NH Flag when the US Flag flies at half-staff due to a casualty by a NH military service member. So many look at our US Flag Al and not all are reminded of those that gave their lives for it and our freedoms. Because you and I are from military backgrounds - we do and we get it. But Al, the other 98% - what do they see? I am just asking, along with others, to help them see and remember specifically those that have died in service to our great State and Country. Please re-consider SB88.
MW McKendry March 09, 2013 at 01:07 PM
I agree with, and support Susan's effort. I lost a Great Uncle in WW I, barely two months before the war ended, and my Uncle flew P-47s for 9th Air Force over the beaches of Normandy on 6 June 1944. I lost two instructors, and four friends during Viet Nam Every April 6th, I think of my PJ classmate Billy Pearson who gave his life that day flying out of Da Nang. Our Nation's ensign will not be replaced, but augmented and supported, just as the POW/MIA Flag supports the POW/MIA effort. Improvise, adapt, and overcome Al. WW II Vets were adored, Korean Vets ignored, and Nam Vets abhorred - continue the effort that has replaced those latter two conditions in the post 9-11 world. Honor & Remember those who have made the ultimate sacrifice just as the Purple Heart Medal augments the MOH, a Navy Cross, Silver or Bronze Star. Give the Families a special remembrance they can wrap their arms around. I know they will fly the Stars and Stripes for nothing replaces "what so proudly we hail". Michael McKendry USAF '70-'74
Jack Kimball March 09, 2013 at 03:00 PM
I have sent a letter to our NH Senators in support of the Honor and Remember Flag and I am very happy that they passed SB88. As a US Navy Veteran who has served under the US Flag, I have come to realize that far tooo many of our citizens take the Stars & Stripes for granted or they simply do not associate it with those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice of our behalf. That is one reason why I think the Honor and Rember Flag is critically important. It will focus the State and our Nations attention specifically on those who have died to keep us free. They deserve it and we should all support it. We're talking about flying it 5 days out of the year beneath Old Glory and our State Flag. I humbly ask that the NH House pass this bill and I would also ask thet our Veterans support it, as well. Sincerely, Jack Kimball US Navy 1967 - 1971
Bob Jones March 09, 2013 at 03:59 PM
Anything we can do as a people to Honor and Remember is important because 'Let Us Not Forget' are not just words but a code we should live by. OUR American Flag is the symbol of this country and we All serve under(those that have,do and will serve) The H&R Flag represents those who gave their lives serving. POW/MIA Flag a symbol of those forgotten and 'still' serving..(Sgt Bowe Bergdahl..being held POW in Afghanistan this day) is also a Let Us Not Forget' symbol. Most Veterans in this state are probably unaware of this H&R Flag as they are of Sgt. Bowe Bergdhal but would support every effort to gain his release as they would in support of this Symbol of Sacriface of the Few !! Blessings.. Bob Jones Meredith Northeast POW?MIA Network
ForThePeople March 10, 2013 at 04:28 PM
Not clear to me what's wrong with using the US(country served) flag? Fly whatever you want, but I hope any public funds go to US flag.
Melissa Farmer March 10, 2013 at 05:16 PM
Mr. Baldasaro, are YOU a Gold Star parent?? I AM a Gold Star Mother. The fact that you are opposing this bill is extremely disrespectful & hurtful to me & every other Gold Star family member. We fly the POW/MIA flag along with the stars & stripes all over the state, but how many POW/MIA's does NH have? NH has NO POW's (yes, the US has 1, but he is not from NH), & any soldiers still Missing-in-Action have been missing since the Vietnam war. I mean no disrespect to that flag & those families, but if we can fly a flag every day at prominent locations around NH that is not currently relevant, we certainly can display a flag that not only applies to today but will remind NH citizens that we ARE still at war, our local soldiers ARE still in danger, & that we honor our fallen soldier's sacrifice.But most importantly, ALL Gold Star families in NH support the flag & support it being displayed. That single fact makes any argument against it null & void. Of course the US flag is the first & foremost symbol for our country. When I look at that flag, I'm not reminded of my family's sacrifice. That's not its purpose after all, it is a symbol of our strength & unity as a country, it's not meant to remind us of our fallen. I challenge anyone that disagrees with the display of this flag to find a Gold Star family member that also opposes its display. I am open minded & respect other's opinions, but on this subject, the only opinions that really matter are that of the Gold Star Families.
Susan Peterson March 10, 2013 at 05:25 PM
Lenny - the cost of the Honor and Remember flag is $50 for a 3x5.
Rep Al Baldasaro March 10, 2013 at 07:49 PM
Susan, click on the H&R site I posted above, the 3X5 flag sells for $350.00. Is the flag laced in gold or some expensive stitching?
Susan Peterson March 10, 2013 at 08:56 PM
The standard Honor and Remember flag is $50 for the 3x5. http://www.honorandremember.info/Standard-HR-Flags_c_7.html The personalized flags and presentation is $350.00 - Any Gold Star family that would like a personalized flag will receive one. The NH Chapter is raising funds, has sponsors and monthly donors. The families do not pay for the personalized flags. Here is info to on the flags that are personalized.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g3Kebvl8Iso SB#88 - is no charge to the State of NH - The NH Chapter will pay for the flag to fly at the State House on the 5 days. Talking about the Standard Flag and the Personalized Flags are apples and oranges. Again...SB#88 is only for the standard flag - nothing to do with personalized flags.
ML Paquette March 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM
I'm sticking to my original comment, the America flag is the only flag we (Veterans) serve under.
ForThePeople March 11, 2013 at 12:23 AM
Are you trying to profit off of dead soldiers, Susan? I guess that's the $350 question.
Susan Peterson March 11, 2013 at 02:35 AM
Of course the American Flag is the flag that you and other Veterans serve under. As the POW/MIA flag is specific to those who are POW's are should be returned home and those that are MIA's - so is the Honor and Remember Flag specific to those military service members who have died in service to our country. The Honor and Remember Flag was brought about by a Gold Star Father, Mr. George Lutz. What an insult to ask about profiting from the death of these soldiers. Do you want to talk to Mr. Lutz and the thousands of families that have been presented personalized flags? The price of the personalized flag costs the Gold Star families ZERO DOLLARS. I can certainly have him contact you. You can send me your phone number at nhchapter@honorandremember.org and he will be humbled to call and talk with you For the People. As a Blue Star Mother and advocate for Veterans, military service members, Blue and Gold Star Families - your remark is offensive.
ForThePeople March 11, 2013 at 02:55 AM
Explain the $350 bill. Is this not sold as a product? I don't think your star color upon thars is relevant to the question of selling products off of tragedy, irregardless if the grieving pay.
JPF36 March 17, 2013 at 01:58 PM
forthepeople ARGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You truly are a POOR EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING. Your comment is idiotic and hurtful and you should apologize. ARGO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve Ketel November 09, 2013 at 11:03 PM
It was NJ Gov Chris Christie who lowered the flag for Whitney Houston, not the President. If the proprietor of the flag wants only American-made flags flown then that can be stipulated in the law for ceremonial display. No one owns the trademark to Old Glory.

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