Smith, Lamontagne Spar in First Debate
They are running for the GOP nomination for governor.
Republican candidates for governor Ovide Lamontagne and Kevin Smith exchanged light jabs during their first debate in Manchester Wednesday night.
Lamontagne, who ran an unsuccessful bid for governor in 1996 and nearly beat U.S. Sen. Kelly Ayotte in the 2010 Primary race, argued he's the better choice because he can reach across and work with the huge portion of undeclared voters in the state to get things done.
Smith, the former head of the conservative advocacy group Cornerstone, said he wants to foster a better business environment in New Hampshire so more residents can work in the state instead of commuting to places like Massachusetts.
"I aim to be (Mass. Gov.) Deval Patrick's worst nightmare," Smith told a crowd of about 500 energized Republicans gathered at a downtown Manchester hotel.
The debate was moderated by House Speaker William O'Brien and Alex Talcott, a member of the New Hampshire Young Republicans.
The governor's race is wide open, with no clear favorite, according to a Rasmussen poll last month. On the Democratic side, top candidates Maggie Hassan, a former state senator from Exeter, and Jackie Cilley, a former state senator from Barrington, are battling each other. The state primary is Sept. 11.
Lamontagne said he would spend his first day in office mandating department heads pursue "zero-based" budgets to save money.
Smith disagreed, saying it's difficult to do that.
Smith said wants to focus on getting a "Right-to-Work" bill passed that would strip unions of some of their power. He added he's long been devoted to that cause.
"I voted for Right-to-Work before it was cool to vote for Right-to-Work," he said.
The pair did agree on one thing – battling what they said was a Democratic view that Republicans don't care about the poor and disadvantaged.
"We do care," Smith said.
Lamontagne agreed. He spoke about his love for his disabled foster son, James.
The next debate is scheduled for Thursday at noon. It will be hosted by WMUR-TV.
ForThePeople
9:16 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
They care about the poor and disadvantaged, but they care about zero-based budgets more? Oh do explain, tweedle dee and tweedle dumb.
Tom Linehan
8:48 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
@ForThePeople. That is not exactly right. Most Republicans care about holding the line on taxes and controlling costs because taxes are a drag on economic growth. The more economic growth the more tax revenue there is to help the poor and disadvantaged. In addition the fewer poor and disadvantaged there are. In other words the Republican approach is two pronged. Create a bigger pie. The bigger pie creates a bigger slice for those in need. Both Ovide and Smith would agree with this. Both want to improve education and get people out of poverty and to help those who can not help themselves. The issue is how to get there.
Mike Healey
8:53 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
"Both want to improve education and get people out of poverty " but not until after they cut the funding to all these social programs.
Tom Linehan
8:58 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
@Mike Healey. It is the economic growth that creates the revenue to fund these programs. Another question is "What are we getting in return for existing spending?" In many cases the answer is little or nothing.
Mike Healey
9:45 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
One of the best public school systems in the country in the greatest public school system in the world is a pretty good return on our investment. What type of return do you from welfare recipients?
ForThePeople
10:10 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Is that so Tom?
http://www.commonblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/2011-03-21-American-pie-chart-distribution-of-wealth.jpg
How big does the pie need to be for the rich and wealthy for the folks on the bottom to get anything? You're joking if you think that making this inequality bigger than it is now will suddenly bestow the spirit of society on the party of the rich. I don't believe a word of your post, or of your candidates. The facts don't reflect your fiction.
When 20% of the people on 93% of the wealth, and you're crying for more, I'm going to have to call bullshi* on that.
Tom Linehan
10:36 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
@Mike Healey. New Hampshire's K-12 education quality is largely a function of demographics and by world class standards quite mediocre http://www.hks.harvard.edu/pepg/PDF/Papers/PEPG11-03_GloballyChallenged.pdf
Tom Linehan
10:40 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
@ForThePeople, remember to vote on November 13th.
Mike Healey
10:48 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Yes, PISA testing of all American public school students takes us off the top, but this is a function of America's poverty epidermic, not our education system. America's 20+% poverty rate puts 20+% of our students at a disadvantage in the testing. Compared to Denmark's 2.4%, Finland's 3.4%, or Norway's 3.6%.
If you take that same PISA data and only compare student living above the poverty line in every country it reveals that the American Public education system is the BEST IN THE WORLD!
And here we have to Republican candidates fighting over who will put more New Hampshire residents into poverty faster.
Mike Healey
10:48 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
http://nasspblogs.org/principaldifference/2010/12/pisa_its_poverty_not_stupid_1.html
Tom Linehan
10:53 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
@Mike Healey. You would be right except that there are lots of schools that beat the demographics and they tell us how to do it. And when mediocre schools do what the great schools do, they do better. Here is a man who took some of the most disadvantaged kids in the country and had them performing at a world class level. He did it a number of times and others have used his ideas to do the same. http://crazylikeafoxthebook.com/ . Educators know how to fix education to be world class. Public education lacks the will to do it. And more money is not the answer.
Mike Healey
3:15 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
That guy sounds like a right wing nut.
They only study for the Academic Performance Index (API), no other classes.
Pays students who have perfect attendance a $100
Students can be dumped because they are a charter school
Half the sixth grade students had been driven out before graduation, where are you going to dump poor performers from a real public school.
Not to mention all the crazy right wing propaganda he pushed:
We are looking for hard working people who believe in free market capitalism. . . . Multi-cultural specialists, ultra liberal zealots, and college-tainted oppression liberators need not apply.
—AIPCS teacher recruiting statemen
AIPCS mocks liberal orthodoxy zealously and has been praised by conservatives such as columnist George Will and Andrew Coulson of the Cato Institute.[21] The school claims to be just as intolerant of unions as it is of drug dealers, and prides itself on firing underperforming teachers.
Wouldn't it be easier to just work on getting Americans out of poverty.
Mike Healey
3:16 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_Public_Charter_School
News Flash
3:20 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Not electing extreme left wingers in the white house would be a good start
Atlant Schmidt
4:52 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
> "I aim to be (Mass. Gov.) Deval Patrick's worst nightmare,"
Because that's what really matters to Granite Staters right now, Kevin? Not jobs, or education, or the environment, but making sure that another state's governor doesn't get his sleep!
Gary G. Krupp
6:57 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
The full reference from Mr. Smith's quote was that he would create job opportunities in NH so that many NH residents would no longer need to commute into MA every day. By creating a more business friendly environment in NH, he intends to entice businesses to locate their operations in NH. He would be Patrick's worst nightmare by poaching those jobs back across the border.
R. Scott White
10:43 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
A simple eye test indicates that if either of these guys is elected we would exonerate William O'Brien's actions in the last term, and open the next term to even more bullying - because there would no longer be any balance on the other side.
I'm not saying this still couldn't work; after all, NH somehow did OK under chairman Meldrim Thompson in the early 70's despite embarrassing bullying politics and Union Leader support. But if you want more balance and reason, you need to select someone from the other side of the aisle or else a lot of social nonsense will accelerate, and there isn't any guarantee that full legislative effort would be put into the economy.
And as an aside, I would add that if either of these Republicans are elected, it could spell the beginning of the end for higher education in NH via the UNH systems.
Mike Healey
10:55 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
"How did the NH Republican legislature's 48%, 32.5 million dollar cut (the deepest cut to higher education in the country EVER) effect real live college students? Well, my son finally got his financial aid package from Keene. They cut his Keene State College Scholarship in half. He called them this morning and asked why. Their response? BUDGET CUTS!
The amount he has to pay has doubled! This is a shock. Here is this kid who is an honor student, made the dean's List, and he may not be able to go back to school in the fall. Also, the bills were sent out today online, with a warning that they need to be paid in full by August 3!! Talk about not giving students enough time to come up with the thousands of dollars extra money they didn't expect to have to pay! I am so disgusted and disappointed, but most of all I am heartbroken."
http://www.bluehampshire.com/
Billnh
11:51 am on Thursday, July 12, 2012
So student loans are not an option for this honor/dean's list student ?
GAR
3:07 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012
I can't believe that you are not aware of the game college administrators play. Rather than review exisiting programs for waste or streamlining, rather than holding the line on admistrative and professorial salaries, they do the easy thing - cut funding to students and / or raise tuition.