If you don't know where Steve Vaillancourt stands on an issue, it's YOUR fault. He might be wrong 50% of the time, but he never plays his cards close to his vest.

He doesn't stand a chance, even Republicans think he's radical....can't follow simple rules, plays dirty even to his own party members!

It only makes Republican Bully NH Speaker O'Brien look bad that his own Republican reps think he's a radical for his crazy and unruly behavior this year! I hope this goes nation wide! America needs to know what kind of party and agenda is pushed by this thug who takes money and orders from groups like ALEC and the Koch brothers, never looking out for NH's residents' best interest, only their deep pocket deregulation agenda.

what does the koch brothers and the rest of the BS have to do with voter ID

@ JIm, FYI we are talking about radical behavior and disrespect in the house....read the article, it would help you.

Sonia I did read the article and it didn't mention the Koch brothers or george soros or ALEC or anything else you babbled about its about voter ID and evidently this yo yo vaillincourt who doesn't support it

Did I miss it? Where in the article did it speak to the Koch Brothers or the ALEC?
Sonia Prince I missed the big conspiracy in this article.

@ Patriot who hides behind his fake name....look up the word radical and you'll later find out what the ALEC and Koch brother bills, along with Bill O'Brien's agenda is all about.

@ JIM Dear dear JIm, read it again...the article is about Vaillancourt's disrespectful behavior by yelling German Hitler slurs to the Speaker of the House because he feels that O'Brien's radical behavior is like Hittler's rules...no rules.....do you get it now????

ya Sonia I get it ,your stuck on stupid , you get mad at someone who posts with out Identifying himself, yet you support voting with out having to identify yourself ...DUH

Have a good day Jim, your rants relate to drinking too much Fox tea! Voter ID will actually cost us more money....the fee they charge doesn't cover the cost of production and the cost of employees offering the service; you have not done your homework....same reason they don't want the students to vote in their state of study (Although O'Brien's son voted in 2 states in the last election); do your homework...they want to surpress the educated and the Latinos because they vote mostly democrat...your prankster who tried to cause a voter ID problem forgot that it's a federal offense, just like opening someone's mail, and he's coping with that as we speak. That's why we don't need a watch dog for voter ID, it's never been a problem in NH....look that up! Also, like opening someone else's mail is a federal offense, are you going to ask the GOP to hire people to monitor that as well? Happy ranting, I'm signing off....

OK sonia have a good day , oh and I dont watch fox news and I dont drink , plus this is obamas America, so dont worry your PETTY little head off about the cost , everything is FREE in obamanation , and FYI its only felony voter fraud if the person actually votes using another's name NEVER in any of the instances did any of the under cover reporters take a ballot of another person and vote so your point is moot ...OK have a nice day at shock therapy treatment

The video shows him waving the papers he holds in his hand - the reference to "salute" is simply the phrase he used.

Just words... I believe that to him it meant that the Speaker was being dictatorial.

Was he right? No,
Was he angry? Oh yes.
Are we glad this session is almost over? Man oh man - are we ever...

Mr O'Brien anyday instead of "Noodnick Norrelli"

@Sonia
To remind you, "Noodnick Norreli ran the democratic house when state expenditures went out of control. We are all suffering because of her irresponsible enabling of Governor Lynch.
She ran the house until VOTERS threw out the democrats.

@Survivor (hiding behind your real name really doens't give you much weight on an opinion...you could be 12 for all I know) Under our Democratic Governor.... http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120515/NEWS02/705159888

hey Sonia your making him sound just like prince harry and princess pelosi

what does voter ID have to do with the second amendment ?

Nice try Bob, Obama had nothing to do with this one...radical GOP NH speaker Billy O'Brien who follows ALEC and Koch brothers rules of dumbing down society, keeping them in debt and deregulating for corporations, thus ignoring the NH people, has done this all by himself, to the point where the Republicans can't stand his radical self. I get your point, anyone but Obama, that's not working so well for you in this case.

Uhhh...
Do you mean Republicans have become more divided under Obama?

Otherwise, your comment makes no sense at all.

I totaly agree with you on that Bob

Nonsense. President Obama hasn't tried to divide anyone. In fact, Democrats do better when all the people come together. The truth is, dividing the people has long been a GOP strategy - get the "little people" fighting amongst each other.

Here is the Rethuglican modus operandi caught on tape:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/05/11-7
Caught on Tape: Walker's 'Divide and Conquer' Plan for a Single Party State

So sell that crap somewhere else.

Because.....both of you can't back justify anything you say. Just repetitious Tea Party blah...get my country back, etc.

@Bob Gibbs
You are absolutely correct. Obamas campaign strategy is to divide the American people. It shows how far the democratic party will go to get their way. Democrats will say and do anything. I think that it is disgusting.

@ "Survivor"
"Obamas campaign strategy is to divide the American people."

Absurd. How would that help him win? That's Rethug behavior. In fact, THEY SAY IT OUT LOUD: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/05/11-7

I doubt you'll even check the link. You'd rather not know. In case you do, the surgically altered vulture that Walker hugs is a billionaire (with a B) who apparently feels she doesn't have enough to get by - she's concerned about union workers getting a living wage. Her prostitute (Walker) assures her he has a plan to screw the little people; Divide and conquer.

@ Survivor (hiding) and Bob Gibbs, if you think that getting equal rights for all (including minorities and gay people), wanting affordable healthcare for all (by the way hands off my affordable health care act, I love it...helping my parents and grandparents), wanting to keep social security sustainable for our elderly, moving ahead with science like Stem Cell research (which we were behind by 8 yrs from other developped nations because of the GOP), getting equal pay for women (which should have been done 20 yrs ago), pushing for affordable education to improve our nations productivity and competitiveness around the world (Canada and many other countries offer college education for free or practically for free), means Obama is dividing the country, then you've both fallen on your heads!

Dave obamas strategy is and always has been divide and conquer from his days of community organising to his days of country disorganising . Walker is fighting fire with fire and the public unions that you defend live off the backs of the tax payers of all tax brackets not just the rich, open your eyes every state is going broke funding public union pensions and every other demand they make, some families go without ,because after they get done supporting the public union demands there is nothing left to fund their needs

@David
*
Los Angeles event brings in nearly $15 million for Obama campaign
The president visits George Clooney's house in Los Angeles' Studio City neighborhood for a big-name fundraising dinner that may set a record.
*
Clooney has advocated a resolution of the Darfur conflict.[36]

He spoke at a 2006 Save Darfur rally in Washington, D.C. In April 2006, he spent ten days in Chad and Sudan with his father to make the TV special "A Journey to Darfur" reflecting the situation of Darfur's refugees, and advocated for action.

@ Patriot
"@David
Los Angeles event brings in nearly $15 million for Obama campaign
The president visits George Clooney's house in Los Angeles' Studio City neighborhood for a big-name fundraising dinner that may set a record.
Clooney has advocated a resolution of the Darfur conflict.[36]
He spoke at a 2006 Save Darfur rally in Washington, D.C. In April 2006, he spent ten days in Chad and Sudan with his father to make the TV special "A Journey to Darfur" reflecting the situation of Darfur's refugees, and advocated for action.'"

Is there a point in this somewhere? Why did you post this?

The Republicans can do a great job at that, and they've done it again!

they have brought more dignity to the state house than obamas brought to the white house

@ Jim
"they have brought more dignity to the state house than obamas brought to the white house"

Care to explain that? Don't be afraid to get specific.

Rep. Vaillencourt
Political Experience

Representative, New Hampshire State House of Representatives, 1996-present
Changed Political Party, from Libertarian to Republican, 2002
Manchester Alderman, Ward 8, 2000-2001
Changed Political Party, from Democrat to Libertarian, 2000
Changed Political Party, from Libertarian to Democrat, 1998
Press Secretary, Condodemetraky for United States Senate, 1998
Candidate, Manchester Alderman at Large, 1997

lol! Good point David, that's so how they are described by all...the party of "no" for the last two years as per the instructions of the GOP National Chair email sent to them all by Steel. The only good news for the GOP, there's no way but up from where they are! Lol

@JIM, Jim meet David, and David reads a lot.....you don't have a chance buddy, He'll get you with the facts every time...you should try that approach. Takes a lot of reading time.

David, you blame a party for Steve who happened to be a republican this month?
*
*
Are we talking about this Steve, you know the Former roommate of the Ray Buckley?
http://www.lostnation.tv/html/sex__lies__and_youtube.html

Dave its as self explanatory as your statement

Sonia , you keep towing the obama garbage barge about republicans doing nothing and being the party of no , but these are facts and the FACT is the do nothing democrat controlled senate is the problem

Empower Small Business Owners and Reduce Regulatory Burdens:H.R. 872, the Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act Introduced by Rep. Bob Gibbs (OH) on March 2, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 292-130 on March 31, 2011
Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 910, the Energy Tax Prevention Act Introduced by Rep. Fred Upton (MI) on March 3, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 255-172 on April 7, 2011
Senate has taken no action to date

H.J.Res. 37, a Resolution of disapproval regarding the FCC’s regulation of the Internet and broadband industry practices Introduced by Rep. Greg Walden (OR) on February 16, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 240 to 179 on April 8, 2011
Senate has taken no action to date

H.Res. 72, a Resolution to direct committees to inventory and review existing, pending, and proposed regulations and order from agencies of the Federal Government, particularly with respect to their effect on jobs and economic growth Introduced by Rep. Pete Sessions (TX) on February 8, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 391 to 28 on February 11, 2011
The Senate has not directed their committees to take such action

Maximize Domestic Energy Production To Ensure An Energy Policy For The Twenty-First Century:H.R. 1230, Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act Introduced by Rep. Doc Hastings (WA) on March 29, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 266-149 on May 5, 2011
Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 1229, Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act Introduced by Rep. Doc Hastings (WA) on March 29, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 263-163 on May 11, 2011
Senate has taken no action to date

H.R. 1231, Reversing President Obama’s Offshore Moratorium Act Introduced by Rep. Doc Hastings (WA) on March 29, 2011
Passed the House by a vote of 243-179 on May 12, 2011
Senate has taken no action to date

Pay Down America’s Unsustainable Debt Burden and Start Living Within Our Means:H.Con.Res. 34, a Resolution establishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2012 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2013 through 2021Introduced by Rep. Paul Ryan (WI) on April 11, 2011 Passed the House by a vote of 235-193 on April 15, 2011 Senate has not yet considered a budget of their own

@ Jim
"Dave its as self explanatory as your statement"

One of the weakest cop-outs I've seen in a while.

Hr 872 is another republican attempt to dismantle environmental regulations. In this case allowing the dumping of pesticides in water supplies.
Hr 910 This bill would allow the dumping of unlimited carbons in the air. Studies also show it would increase, not decrease gas prices.
HJ Res 37 is a was a cheap attempt to kill Net Neutrality and toss the net into the hands of the cable companies.
HR 1229, 1230, 1231. All three of these mean in effect, basically the same thing. We are big money, we are Big Oil and we don't give a rat’s rear end if we have another B.P. disaster. Let’s get back to unabridged, unsafe, deep water drilling practices, which will do little to reduce gas prices, but will make us even more filthy rich.

And last, but not least, we have the Paul Ryan path to destruction.
www.wnd.com/2011/04/287081 -
www.americanfamilyvoices.org/page/s/paulryanbudget

Lil joe da hack , perhaps they could vote on obamas budget ....OH wait , they already did vote on both the budgets this mental giant proposed and neither one got ANY VOTES!!! at least Ryans plan passed the house, the commie in commands BS budget couldn't even get one democrat vote ...the mans pathetic, like you

Oh! Is poor Jimmy Wimmy crying because he got called on his garbage again? Grab a hankie. The only thing that is pathetic is your pathological lies that you paste on these pages. Have a good cry, and then grow up.

Lil joe da hack what lies ?everything was factual , I like you link... voter fraud ALLMOST non existent , your a joke ,I guess your on the same mindset as Dave if a criminal only commits an illegal act a few times its OK ,a crime is a crime the first time its committed , you dont get to pick which laws can be broken and which cant, you also dont get to look the other way just because the law is not broke that often ...dumb as a stump as usual

www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

Oh Jim, Jim, Jim, Jim. You say "what lies, everything is factual" and then
lie again! “I guess you’re on the same mindset as Dave if a criminal only commits an illegal act a few times its OK, a crime is a crime the first time its committed, you don't get to pick which laws can be broken and which can't, you also don't get to look the other way just because the law is not broke that often ...dumb as a stump as usual"
Show me anywhere, any post, by Dave or me or anybody, that states crimes
should go unpunished. The very reason voter fraud is virtually nonexistent is because the penalties are so severe voter fraud is basically irrational.
Speaking of crimes and scandals that went unpunished this link is a small list.
www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

If you understood that the only reason they want to start voter ID is the supress Latinos so they won't vote democrat, then you'd understand.....reading helps! Is someone paying you to blog this way because nothing you say is supported by facts or makes any sense...

really Sonia, please enlighten us with the ''facts'' that voter ID will suppress the Latino vote, the voter suppression BS is just more dem drivel, and that's a fact

And no brainer is right up your alley, Jim!

WOW !!! ...... Susan, I'm speechless after that witty one liner

@ Survivor
"I think the strategy is STUPID to divide the American People. Nobody has ever accused democrats of being particularly smart."

I think it's STUPID that anyone would think Democrats want to divide voters. Democrats do better at the voting booth when people come together. It's Rethugs that need to divide the "little people" to win (well, that and massive amounts of cash to spend on attack ads, gerrymandering, and voter suppression).

Here's a GOP prostitute actually telling his rich pimp how he plans to squeeze the working people even more than we already are: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/05/11-7

Sonia do you mean like the way the democrats bought votes to get "your affordable health care act '' passed, and if its called fraud then obama has committed it, he has just as many lobbyists in his w/h as the rest of the frauds

"It will take a long time for responsible Republicans, Democrats and Independs to fix the damage that these idiots have created."

A very long time, I'm afraid, Jack. Look how many people on these boards want the damage to continue, and support these wackos. Humans aren't rational creatures, unfortunately.

It's going to take a very long time, if ever. We are in one of those rough patches where the extremists have taken over. America always goes back to center, but it takes a few years. The problem as I see it is not only rampant ignorance- as is displayed by the crazed fanatics on this board- but the delight they take in showing off their hatred. It's a group of people that are not for something- they're just against a lot of things. For them, it feels good to hate, it feels good to be ignorant, it feels good to revel in others' misery, and no matter how many times you ask them for a fact-based argument, to them it only validates their idiotic hate

Jack, speaking of two bit dictators being an embarrassment and gun laws, have you heard about fast and furious ? where our two bit dictator embarrassed our nation by having his AG eric holder sell guns to known felons , drug dealers and smugglers and that resulted in getting hundreds of Mexicans and Americans killed along with two of our border patrol agents

"Money can't fix dumb" was a response to; Stephen Bangs

4:37 pm on Tuesday, May 15, 2012

NH needs some new Reps. Maybe it has something to do with paying them $1.00 per year. How does that saying go? Oh yeah, you get what you pay for.""
*
Joe makes much more than $1.00 per year and reflects no higher IQ than what we get for $1.00

What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand, Patriot? Are you even from NH? There seem to be a lot of out-of-staters here attempting to divert the topic away from the O'Brien junta.

Dorothy: Would the REAL news be FOX, perhaps?

Dorothy ,Sonia gets her ''news'' from Dave, who reads a lot and is smarter than the rest of us , so she dont need to watch anything but cartoons and reality shows

@ Dorothy
Yeah, that cute line is going around in GOP circles. It's stupid. It's projection to assume people voted for Obama to prove (or disprove) anything.

Anyway, you don't provide any information in this post. HOW is he an "egotistical maniac"? WHAT is it about his "agenda" that is "...not for the betterment of our beloved USA"? Sounds to me like you've been spending too much time listening to talking heads spout infotainment.

Really Susan , O'Briens reprehensible conduct? you need to stay on topic , this ain't about O'Briens conduct .....its about Vaillancourt's conduct

You are right Susan, I drift off on another point made by one of the posters.
*@David posted;
"Here's a GOP prostitute actually telling his rich pimp how he plans to squeeze the working people even more than we already are: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/05/11-7 "

susanthe could you give me the NH address for ALEC and the Koch brothers. You called me out when I only pointed out the there are rich people buying influence from all walks of life.
*
The problem presents itself in the timing of the responses.

you posted that O'Brien did or said something that was reprehensible and your wrong plain and simple ,just because their connected by the article does not mean O'Brien did anything reprehensible , you should have Dave read you the story ...he reads a lot and might better be able to explain it to you. you and sonia must be related your both a couple of snotty noitalls

Ah, Jim, it is incredibly droll to be called stupid by someone who is barely literate. Your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are laughable.

all you libs do the same thing when confronted with facts you get flustered and then you revert to being the spelling and grammar coach ...your a hoot

Oh, Dorothy. You don't disappoint. The fake journalist James O'Keefe would be right up your Foxaganda sleeve. Now, do you have any REAL evidence of NH voter fraud? Surely if it is so rampant, the NH Secretary of State must have reams of evidence. Can you show us some?

susan the whole state saw how easy it was to commit voter fraud .....perhaps you were watching desperate housewives and missed it

@ Dorothy

From The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law:

"There is no documented wave or trend of individuals voting multiple times, voting as someone else, or voting despite knowing that they are ineligible. Indeed, evidence from the microscopically scrutinized 2004 gubernatorial election in Washington State actually reveals just the opposite: though voter fraud does happen, it happens approximately 0.0009% of the time. The similarly closely-analyzed 2004 election in Ohio revealed a voter fraud rate of 0.00004%. National Weather Service data shows that Americans are struck and killed by lightning about as often."
http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/

@ Jim

From The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law:

"Fraud by individual voters is both irrational and extremely rare. Most citizens who take the time to vote offer their legitimate signatures and sworn oaths with the gravitas that this hard-won civic right deserves. Even for the few who view voting merely as a means to an end, however, voter fraud is a singularly foolish way to attempt to win an election. Each act of voter fraud risks five years in prison and a $10,000 fine - but yields at most one incremental vote. The single vote is simply not worth the price."

It all a made-up problem.

so Dave in your world , if a criminal commits a crime that really isn't committed that often that crime and criminal should be overlooked because its a ''rare instance'' ? if we are truly a nation of laws we should uphold ALL LAWS not just the laws the party in power wants upheld during their time in power, do I think republicans commit voter fraud ..damn right I think they do , do I think democrats commit voter fraud ..damn right I do , do I think independents commit voter fraud ..damn right I do , the difference between me and you,I think every one of them are criminals not just the ones in the other party, and then we have the illegal vote which is more than just a few people voting there are app. 15 million illegals in this country if 1/3 of them commit voter fraud its no little thing , if every vote counts as we're supposed to believe why not make sure every vote is legal ,this is not a republican or democrat or independent issue its an AMERICAN issue and all Americans should take issue with an illegal vote canceling out their legal vote

ForThePeople, are you selling me the notion that democrats are above the actions of republicans and their motive is for the $100.00?

Wow, Dorothy!

Hey, Dorothy. Undoubtedly not you, but a majority of women will Remember in November. They sure don't want the Speaker and his cronies in the Doctor's office telling the Doctor what to do. Say goodnight, Bill......

@ Dorothy
"I can tell you the party today is a socialist party bordering on Communism. The Republican party is what the old Democat party was"

Ridiculous. Doesn't make any sense at all. The Dems have actually shifted to the right since 1960, and the Republicans have gone completely insane - launching wars while spouting about God, running up the debt, ruining education, and standing in the way of science and rational thought. There's nothing "conservative" about today's Republican party, and how you figure they're like "what the old Democrat party was" is anyone's guess.

Get in shape Dorothy before the cops show up, remember you have rights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoHqfCTJX64&feature=relmfu

they showed the NH voter fraud video last time we voted in NH , you were probably having your toes done or something and missed it

Jim: You don't seem to be able to comprehend what you read. What proof do you have of NON-GOP voter fraud in NH? The video you keep bleating about shows REPUBLICAN voter fraud, by a fake journalist who lives with his mommy.

SOCIALIST PARTY OF AMERICA RELEASES THE NAMES OF 70 DEMOCRAT MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THEIR CAUCUS

Barock Obama (IL)
Xavier Becerra (CA-31) .
Frederica Wilson (Fla)
. Phil Hare (IL-17) .
John Hall (NY-19)
Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)
Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
. Michael Honda (CA-15)
. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)
. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
. Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
. Barbara Lee (CA-09)
John Lewis (GA-05)
. David Loebsack (IA-02)
. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)
. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
. Ed Markey (MA-07)
Jim McDermott (WA-07)
James McGovern (MA-03)
. George Miller (CA-07)
. Gwen Moore (WI-04)
. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)
John Olver (MA-01)
. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
. Donald Payne (NJ-10)
. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
. Charles Rangel (NY-15
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. Bobby Rush (IL-01)
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. Pete Stark (CA-13)
. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
. John Tierney (MA-06)
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. Danny Davis (IL-07)
. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)
. Keith Ellison (MN-05)
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@ Jim

Stop wasting so much screen space with GIBBERISH!
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2011/sep/02/blog-posting/us-reps-corrine-brown-alcee-hastings-and-frederica/

Quality, not quantity. You should be embarrassed for cluttering up so much of this board with blatant falsehoods. Don't you verify anything? Give us a break!

Dorothy, you will have to excuse susan, she is stuck on stupid like her sista sonia

War is peace. Love is hate. Up is down. Socialism is bad.

Again, Dorothy, you're not making any sense. If anything, the Democrats have become LESS "Socialist" (to use your term) since 1965, not more so.

What have the Democrats "taken over"? And when you say the Cubans and / or older Germans you've met "see what is happening" just what exactly are you / they referring to? Specifically.

Six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America said in a 1944 speech:
“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of “liberalism”, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation … I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”
—- NORMAN MATTOON THOMAS —-
(Nov 20, 1884 – Dec 19, 1

—- NORMAN MATTOON THOMAS —-
(Nov 20, 1884 – Dec 19, 1968

Craig you forgot , obamas a Christian, ted bundy was a vegan and Elvis is alive !!

susan its not your state its OUR state and what difference does it make whether a republican a democrat or a liberal commits voter fraud its all illegal no matter who's doing it .... dumb as a stump

I'd be careful telling some of these psychos where you live Dorothy, you might come home to a yard full of plastic tarp tents and the angry 99% wiggling their fingers in your face and beating you down

susan you didn't answer my question what difference does it make whether its a republican a democrat or a liberal committing voter fraud.... its the same crime no matter who commits it

Susan The ? "Angry Ma Republicans?"

Patriot ,ya gotta take susan with a smile on your face ....shes not playing with a full deck

@ Jim

How is Obama like Hitler?

In August of 1934,members the Wehrmacht were required to recite a Reichswehreid,an oath of personal allegiance to Adolf Hitler. This oath ignored God and country but swore an oath to a man,Adolf Hitler. The soldiers were to fight and die on the behalf of the dear leader. Such loyalty oaths originated in ancient Rome and have been repeated throughout history and to different tyrants.

Obama

in his narcissist mindset,he truly believes the military serves at his whim. In an ABC interview concerning his flip-flop on Gay marriage he said “when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained,even now that ‘don’t ask,don’t tell’ is gone,”

Hitler had his "Volks Wagen". Obama has his "Volt". Both were funded by the taxpayers. The difference? one letter ,Hitler's car was a long-term sucess and the people wanted to buy it. Obama's car, runs (when it runs), on electricity generated by burning coal. (defeating the very purpose of the electric car). Hitler's car was cheap to buy, hence "the Volks Wagen" or, "Folks Car". Obama's Volt wagen costs north of 50 grand. If one of the "batteries" goes out, they cost $8,OOO.00 each! The only difference between Hitler and Obama? ................Hitler had a better car !

obamas ''FORWARD'' propaganda slogan was also a slogan and song of the third reich , in obamas propaganda infomercial he tells the masses how after nationalising and taking over GM he saved 1 million jobs, he forgot to mention most of these ''jobs'' he saved were in china and Mexico, hitler would be so proud of the obama administration and his 4th reich ,they have taken the nazi propaganda techniques to a whole new level

@ Jim

I'm sorry I asked. I should have expected a screen full of foolishness. My fault.

"Obama
in his narcissist mindset,he truly believes the military serves at his whim."

You're a mind reader now? You must be, because Obama's BEHAVIOR certainly doesn't suggest such a thing. Our FORMER "bring 'em on" war-crazy chicken-hawk President fits that descripton perfectly, though. Maybe you're confusing the two?

The Chevy Volt is a GM product. Any suggestion Obama ordered it built is the stuff of fantasy. Nothing like Hitler and the VW. Pathetic.

Main Entry:
forward  [fawr-werd]
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: advancing, early

When you hear the word, do you think of the definition above, or of Hitler? If the answer is the latter, you're spending way too much time listening to Glenn Beck.

David,
I was just wondering what would happen if we stooped to Jim's level.
You know, throw out a bunch of childish names like Hitler, Commie,
4th Reich or what have you, and dig up some far right Tea Party blog
and paste it . So I'll start throwing out some myself.

Republicans are the New Nazis
Undeniably fascist ...

Republicans ARE fascists. They deny it and they'll even call liberals fascists (they love attempting to redefine words that describe them in an unflattering way). Not sure where this list originally appeared but you can Google it and find it in any of a number of locations.

14 IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
5. Rampant sexism
6. A controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and government are intertwined
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent elections

Are Republicans fascists? Are Republicans Nazis? Look at those 14 points then describe the Republican party. You tell me.

Lil joe da hack ...your a hoot !!!

14 IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism -last we checked it was obama nationalising everything from banks to cars manufactures
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights - the republicans have always been at the front lines of supporting human rights the democrats were the ones who fought to keep the black man on the plantations the republicans were the party that freed them every civil right the black man gained he did it with republican support and the democrat party fighting it
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause- do you mean like ..ITS BUSHES FAULT
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism - goes hand in hand with national security
5. Rampant sexism - ya i guess A Wiener was a closet republican, both parties are guilty
6. A controlled mass media , that's funny the lame stream media are the biggest supporters of the communist left

7. Obsession with national security - ya republicans care about America democrats dont
8. Religion and government are intertwined- where is this happening ?
9. Power of corporations protected- the dem party is the party taking over ''failing corps and funding the green corps that keep going under
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated - your confusing getting a handle on the strangle hold the public unions have on tax payers with labor suppression its all a made up war by the democrats in the wh
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts -why because were sick of supporting PTV & PR. both of which are nothing but progressive mouthpieces that were forced to support with our tax money
12. Obsession with crime and punishment - ya its called following the laws , to bad obama and holder cant read
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption - funny both parties are in on that deal if you think its only republicans who are crooks your as dumb as a stump
14. Fraudulent elections - republicans want voter ID to stop this ..but DEMOCRATS ARE FIGHTING IT TOOTH AND NAIL

Oh Jim, Jim, Jim! I have got to hand it to you! I was already well aware of your crazy far right Conspiracy theories and silly name calling antics. Now I see you have the standard republican talking points down to a science as well. But talking points and reality are not synonymous.
1] Who is “we”? Obama has not “nationalized” anything. Case closed.
2] Here you would have had a point-if the was the year 1940. The Democratic Party has grown and Learned while your party has regressed.
. From the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act in 2009, Democrats have fought to end discrimination in all forms—including discrimination based on race, sex, ethnicity or national origin, language, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, age, or disability.
3] No. I mean like lying about weapons of mass destruction and linking Saddam Hussein to 9/11 to start a war. YES. THAT IS BUSHES FAULT.
4] Bloated defense budgets and unjust wars weaken, not strengthen, national security.
5] Sexism. Not perversion. There is a difference Jim. Example- Republicans trying to kill the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.
6] Over 90% of talk radio is conservative. 75% of the guests on television talk shows like “Meet the Press” are conservative. Newspapers have been trending conservative thanks to the corrupt Murdock empire. And now thanks to “Citizens United” unlimited corporate money flows into Political Campaigns.

7] Republicans couldn’t care less about the American People.
8] You never heard of the religious right? It’s your party.
9] Oh yes! The attack on clean energy funneled by ALEC, the Koch Brothers, and Big Oil. Solyndra Solyndra Solyndra. Successes and failures happen with high risk, high reward, Technology. People died in failed Space Missions before Armstrong’s first steps on the moon. Its funny Jim, you Republican’s never mention the highly successful solar companies like Sun Power, First Solar, and Bright Source energy. Heaven forbid we allow competition withBig Oil.
10] No Jim. I’m not confused at all. Union membership has been plunging for decades And so have incomes for most Americans. All productivity gains line the pockets of the Super wealthy. This trend has more or less continued since Ronald Regan held office.But you don’t care about facts.
11] I see. But you have no problem subsidizing Big Oil, and Big Pharma, and unjust wars With tax payer money. Got it.

12] It is too bad Obama and Eric Holder can’t read. If they did Holder would have done his job And prosecuted Bush/Cheney for war crimes.
13] I never said both parties weren’t corrupt. But it’s the Republicans that are undermining common sense regulations for the Big Banks, Big Oil, or Big Pharma, because they are bought out.
14] Oh poor poor Jim. I’m really sorry you don’t even know the difference between Voter Fraud And Election Fraud. I guess I have to spell it out for you. Voter Fraud is an individual act to cast an illegal Vote. The risk to reward ratio is so great this act is fundamentally irrational and is therefore virtually Non-existent. Election Fraud on the other hand are actions that alter large vote counts that can trip An election. Stuffing ballot boxes, rigging machines, not counting blocks of votes, and perhaps
The worst example-disenfranchising millions of voters. Election Fraud happened in 2000, 2004, and now in 2012.

I'm always amazed that the Republican defense for party bigotry is bringing up Abraham Lincoln.

I see all the feather weight democrats are out in force tonight.

she might Dorothy, but the rest of us stupid capitalists will think your an achiever

@NF

Surprised you'd enjoy the GOP disgracing the State House by turning it into a circus. But whatever makes you happy.

one psycho rino does not make up the whole republican party nor does he represent the whole republican party this guy is as much a republican as obama is

DId you get that with your morning talking points from Rush, Jimbo?

Why do you hate the Red Cross? They're community organizers.

Our Pledge of Allegiance-
I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation [ under God is optional based on
personal beliefs] indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Your Pledge of Allegiance- To Grover Norquist

not true Ken ,they passed voter ID

You're right. It started under Ronald Reagan.

after obamas failed bid to secure a second term as dictator he can go back to the WH web page and leave a foot note under President Fords Biography stating that

''his campaign was tripped by President Bush and its Bushes fault his campaign fell flat on its face''

You sure are determined to divert the topic to Obama, Jim. Someone paying you to do all this posting?

Yes, you are missing something, Richard M. The constitution doesn't give you the right to buy Sudafed. When was the last time you were asked for ID at the bank, seriously? If you live in NH, it was probably never. You're regurgitating a list of standard GOP arguments for voting rights - though you forgot to add getting on a plane.

What you're missing is the WHY. Where's the proof of voter fraud (not committed by out of state Republicans) in NH?

Thanks Dorothy , I blame most of the stupidity on public education, schooling like everything else the feds took control of has failed our young people and our nation ,I sometimes come across as a republican but I'm an independent voter and have voted across party lines many times ,but I have seen the slide into communism the democrat party has taken and will only vote for a democrat till after he/she passes the smell test if they have a strict democrat agenda I wouldn't stop to put em out if they were on fire , the same goes for republicans if their not true to the Constitution and the will of the people they ain't getting my vote, keep fighting the good fight ..welcome to Windham ...dont tell susan or sonia but i have lived here my whole life..and i don't want them out side my home wiggling there fingers HA HA .....thanks for the link

That's pretty funny to speak about public education and using the word "ain't" in the same paragraph. I guess you are correct.

Jim has a right to be angry at education. He seems to have been home schooled, based on his level of grammar, spelling, and punctuation.

As for you, Dotty, I don't watch Fox News, nor do I believe everything the GOP tells me, the way you seem to. I don't think indoctrinated means what you think it means....

Susan, can you explain what your comments have to do with the actual topic of the NH legislature?

Susan, sonia is a harmless whelp, I doubt shes even old enough to vote, you can hear the PS progressive indoctrination mentality come through loud and clear in her posts

Arizona official to Hawaii: Show birth verification
Eligibility dispute elevated to formal inquiry from state elections office
A state official in Arizona has asked Hawaii for verification of the information on Barack Obama’s birth certificate, the document that Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s special investigative team has concluded may be a forgery.

Residents of Surprise, Ariz., , who petitioned Arpaio to investigate Obama’s eligibility, say they are awaiting word from the state secretary of state regarding whether Obama’s name will be on the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona. Secretary of State Ken Bennett had promised to ask Hawaii officials for verification of Obama’s documentation, vowing that if answers are not forthcoming, Obama’s name will not be on the ballot.

The assurance came in an email to various constituents in Arizona who had contacted Bennett’s office expressing concern that the name of an ineligible candidate would be presented to voters in November.

Because of the importance and profile of the president’s case, and at the request of many constituents, I have gone the extra step of asking the state of Hawaii to verify the facts contained in his birth certificate,” Bennett wrote in response to concerns last month. “Hawaii is bound by their own statutes to provide such verifications to other state officials in their official duties.

@ Patriot, Jim, and every other poster afflicted with Obama Derangement Syndrome.

"A possible source of the so-called "birther" issue--or at least a potential cause of the rumors that have dogged President Barack Obama--has been identified.

Obama's former literary agency misidentified his birthplace as Kenya while trying to promote the then-Harvard Law grad as an author in 1991."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566

ya know Dave its awfully funny that a bio from 1991 ran uncontested from obama till just two months AFTER his decision to run for president in 2007 and that now this woman who is now a partner at the add agency and a obama supporter gives the sheeple an explanation, where was obama for the 16 years that the bio was up , he HAD to approve it , you know damn well this narcissus had to have read it a FEW times, hes to stuck up on himself to have not gloated over seeing his name in print by a publishing co ...but facts are facts right Dave

Patriot = paid troll.

Anyone who posts this much is being paid to do so. The only time Jim's posts are coherent are when they're cut and paste jobs like this one.

@ Jim

You've persuaded me. He's an alien. Can you stop cluttering up these boards with 18,567,321 pages of sourceless cut & paste now? And stay on topic?

there are wayyyyy to many discrepancies and unanswered questions the depth of the deception is what keeps it going anyone with a thinking mind has to ask ...why doesn't he just come out and release his BC ,his school records ...but he wont , instead of fighting Arpaio with facts he has his lap dog holder sue him for some BS , anyone who says they know for sure obama was born in Hawaii is talking out their azz there is no definitive proof just a forged BC on WH web site and some officials who say its true ...were all big boys and girls we can handle the truth ..show us the original and the micro film

Feds stonewall on Obama draft registration record
Agency contends microfilm available only to authorized federal investigation
Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse says Selective Service System officials apparently are trying to dissuade the Arizona investigative team from attempting to obtain original documentation to determine whether Barack Obama’s draft registration form is authentic.

Cold Case Posse lead investigator Mike Zullo received a letter from an official claiming the agency cannot release the original microfilm of Obama’s draft registration unless the inquiry comes from a law enforcement organization under federal jurisdiction conducting a federally authorized investigation.

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GreenlightLoans.com/866.557.6023The agency previously disclosed to Zullo’s team, which is probing Obama’s eligibility for the presidential ballot, that the original paper documents had been destroyed and only microfilm records remained.

The Cold Case Posse authorized by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has found probable cause that the Selective Service draft registration form presented by Obama is a forgery. The volunteer team of retired law enforcement investigators under Arpaio’s authority came to the same conclusion about the BC published by the WH

Lead investigator ,Mike Zullo sent a letter last week to Selective Service System Director Lawrence Romo asking for reassurance that microfilm records of Obama’s draft registration form still existed after it was reported that new Selective Service privacy rules might allow existing microfilm records to be destroyed as well.

The May 10 reply to Zullo’s inquiry, from Associate Director of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs Richard S. Flahavan, explained that “for security purpose and to prevent workflow disruption in servicing public inquiries,” access to both the master microfilm copy of the record and the working copy is not available to the public.

“However, access is available to law enforcement organizations with Federal jurisdiction that are conducting an authorized Federal investigation,” Flahavan said.

Zullo said that the agency’s statement “is pretty much indicating to us that the attempt here is to dissuade us from attempting to see the original microfilm record, the master copy.”

He said his team wants to know whether the restriction on access to the documents is a statutory regulation or an internal policy newly created by Selective Service.

The new letter, he said, at least confirms that while the paper copies have been destroyed, the microfilm record still exists.

Jim, ....it seems that you are just talking to yourself.....

Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, it has found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”

Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade, right until after he was running for president.

In April 2007, two months after Obama had launched his presidential bid, Dystel was still touting the then-Democratic senator from Illinois as “born in Kenya.”

It's been taken over by trolls and spammers, unfortunately. Something interesting about this patch is that there tends to be one major article where people come together and start posting. This is one of those articles. I think it exists in the absence of a general discussion board, which would actually be helpful.

@ madeleine

It's not much of a discussion, really. It's becoming more like a place to quickly fill our entire screen with unsourced, copied & pasted, frequently off-topic hysteria. It's kind of like graffiti - and they're trying to fill the whole wall. For some posters, quality apparently takes a back seat to quantity. It shows a lack of respect for the reader and / or poor writing skills. You may notice in some of the posts that the careless poster didn't even take the time to leave out the web advertisements scooped up in the hastily copied text. So, no, you're not the only one that thinks the issues are getting lost. I do, too. And I'm certain we have plenty of company.

@ Dorothy
"Try google, or the Associated press and other news outlets."

Or, Jim could simply provide URLs to his sources for his 4,356,745 pages of "facts". What he's doing is an internet filibuster - inundating this board with page after sloppy page of unsourced copy & pasted drivel. Everything but the kitchen sink is hastily slapped up. As you were "checking out his facts", did you also check out the ads by Google he carelessly included in one of his endless, run-on screeds? He's a saboteur trying to make these boards unreadable.

I hope Janet Napolitanos storm troopers dont select you for inspection.

@ Dorothy

"I can tell you just about everyone who is a citizen has an ID card."

You can't tell us that with certainty, because how would you know? That aside, I believe it's probably true. I can't think of a single person I know personally who doesn't have a government-issued photo ID. But that's not the point. The point is SOME people don't. Many elderly people don't have driver's licenses, and other forms of ID don't satisfy the requirements. Same with students - many don't have a driver's license. Social Security cards don't qualify. Student IDs don't either. So if this new law is really going to be fair, every person of voting age in America needs to be mailed a photo ID so nobody is denied their constitutional right to vote. That's costs money. It also takes time. The GOP is pushing these laws before November to suppress the vote. Here's one example the fallout. There are more:

Paul Carroll, a 86-year-old World War II veteran, was denied his right to vote in Ohio's primary contest today after a poll worker refused to accept Carroll's photo ID from the Department of Veterans Affairs.http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/86-year-old-us-veteran-paul-carroll-denied-right-vote

They've also shortened the period for mail registration and early mail voting in some states. In the interim, this website will tell everyone, regardless of state, what they need to be sure they can vote: http://gottavote.org/en/NH/

Dave your link dont work ...post the article ... and the reason its being pushed befor Nov's election is so obama cant steal the election by fraud with millions of illegal votes, the voters have 6 months befor the election ,that's plenty of time to secure acceptable picture ID

@ Jim

Here's the story again, and this is just one example.

Portage County veteran, 86, doesn't vote after VA identification card rejected at polls
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/03/portage_county_veteran_86_turn.html

The GOP wants to suppress turnout.

@ Patriot

That would be fine, imo.

Dave ..WTF, your post was as off topic as mine, your post was about a POLL WORKER THAT FOLLOWED THE LAW !!!!!, not voter supression, so if you can post off topic so cant we

@ Jim

Obviously I was responding to Dorothy's comment on voter ID.

Somebody is confused, again.

@ NF

"Somebody is confused, again."

Another great one from NF.

53,000 dead people are not voting in Florida. They have not been purged from the rolls. There's a big difference, and you will find no objection from anyone on using data about those who have died to keep voting records clean. The objection is obstructing the living from voting:
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/03/portage_county_veteran_86_turn.html

And this is the real fraud, perpetrated by your party.

for the sheeple did you and your buddy Dave even read the article ? the man was turned away because he had NO ID, the Ohio election law requires three pieces of info on an ID , name , photo and a current address, the mans licence was expired so there for it could not be used as a current address and his veterans ID had no address so he was turned away because according to the LAW he had NO ID , the way you and dave flaunt this garbage article one would think the man was told out right he just couldn't vote, you two are pathetic your like obummer you think you can pick and choose which laws you want to uphold when ever you feel like upholding them ...NEXT

@ Jim

"the man was turned away because he had NO ID"

This man was NOT turned away because he had no ID

"his driver’s license had expired in January and his new Veterans Affairs ID did not include his home address."
http://www.cleveland.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/03/portage_county_veteran_86_turn.html

Did YOU read the article?

Dead people voting in Michigan (no ID required)
http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/05/michigan_dead_people_voting_au.html

@ Seamus

You people don't even bother to READ YOUR OWN LINKS!!! It's disgusting. If you want to have a conversation, great. If not, go play video games. Why waste our time???? Embarrassing.

"Dead people voting in Michigan (no ID required)"

"And they say clerical error is the culprit behind the voting concerns, NOT VOTER FRAUD."

Dave ,come on I know your not that dumb , he had no ID because the two IDs he had were insufficient, one was expired and one didn't have his address so he had NO ID that was good enough to use to vote,the LAW requires that your ID has ,a home address,a picture, and your name as I explained in my post his driver's licence had expired so how was the person supposed to know he didn't move and this was still his address ,the other ID his veterans card had no address so it also was no good as ID to vote, no one is above the laws not even veterans , I would be more worried about an illegal vote canceling out my legal vote and also the man could have voted a poll worker said but he got hot about his mistake and left this was clearly his fault no one else's , in your bizarro world you can pick and choose which people get to break the laws, but in the real world it dont work that way .... the head line should have read , Poll Worker Follows Laws !!

Hilarious. Dead people don't vote, and the only attempt at voter fraud you can point to is by a GOP activist. This is a cooked-up problem by the ever-scheming GOP to suppress the vote by denying Americans their Constitutional rights. If Republicans don't cheat, they don't win.

seriously Dave whats wrong with making sure no voter fraud is committed ? even if it happens only once or twice in an election that's one or two legal votes that are canceled out it could be your vote canceled out by an illegal vote, if an older person needs a ride to obtain an ID to vote they will need to ask the same person who drives them to the polls to drive them to get their ID, I'm led to believe the riff raff in both parties commit fraud and I would like to see it stopped, as I said long ago it dont matter who commits the fraud a republican a dem or an independent its against the law and we need to stop it for the good of all the legal voters

Acorn? Really? Still on that?

Acorn was cleared of wrongdoing, and closed two years ago in any case. And you're off topic.

Hey, what's the latest on that new Solyndra story?

Dave you and sheeple are stuck on your party , its about Americans having voter fraud committed against them ,not about the republican party or the dem party, both party constituents commit fraud against '' AMERICANS'' like you a dem voter and me an independent voter

@ Jim

Way off topic. WTF?

Ha ha ha. I'll put a quarter in the jar. :)

for the sheeple acorn was defunded because they committed voter fraud on many levels but like good little rabble rousing community activists they disbanded under the acorn flag and re banded under many other names and are once again receiving federal funds and doing the same crap they were doing befor, you lefties throw the Koch name around like a ball but never mention George Soros why is that ? in your mind its only unacceptable when its done by a party other than the one you salute, its for God and Country .....not god and party , open your eyes to see everything, not just what your force fed by the lame stream media

@ Jim

You're off topic again, graffiti artist. Thanks for another mile of sourceless copy & paste.

hey dave why dont you take your post moderating azz on out of here if you dont like what or how I'm posting, you keep telling me to post links but I cant !!! I'm so damn smart everything I write comes from memory not some far left blog site

I believe I have identified the Missing Link. I will keep it to myself though.

for the sheeple ,this is from your fist link about congressional speech levels :

senior fellow Lee Drutman emphasized in an interview with Yahoo News that the exact cause is difficult to determine, but the foundation's report concludes that an influx of new members is dragging down the grade level average for Congress overall. But Drutman said the results are neither good nor bad, in his opinion.

"On one hand, you might be concerned that members are speaking at a lower level," Drutman said. But he added on the other, "You might see it as just members speaking more directly to their constituents and being more accessible and plain-spoken."

Drutman noted that many public speakers, writers and others are educated on how to speak and write in simple terms to reach the widest audience.

Drutman said the shift "reflects some of the ways the institution has changed" and said the study was conducted in the "spirit of fun" and was not intended to "pass judgement."

It should be noted that the Congressional Record can be amended by members, meaning they can insert speeches they never actually issued and modify those they did issue. Drutman said he has no data to base a guess on how that may shape the grade level results overall.

So what you're saying is, that the Republican base reads at a middle school grade level Jim?

I think you're onto something.

for the sheeple this is from your second left wing research link :
notice where even the researchers tell you low IQ liberals not to take their research to literally

Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

So what you're saying is, on *average*, Conservatives have a lower IQ?

Right again, Jim. Twice in a row, you're on a roll!

the economy that obama inherited is all you lefty's talk about ,but the fact that he made it worse is missing from your posted drivel ....we're not worried about everyone getting health care were horrified that the 55% of us Americans who actually pay taxes are going to have to foot the bill to cover our families and the families of you lefty loafers who want everything for nothing and were all going to end up with second rate coverage that costs more , the govt cooks the books on unemployment and you know it, the real unemployment level is above 10%, obama claims he created 4 million jobs and that's a half truth ...because the rest of the story is the country lost 6 million jobs but you dont hear that from you nitwits , we are actually 2 million jobs in the hole

for the sheeple what do you expect from left wing research think tanks ....the truth or findings that might go against the left ...ya right, this is tabloid BS research that probably cost the taxpayers billions and is meaningless to everyone but you far left wing nuts ..... even one of your '' noted researchers '' stated dont take their findings literal

no, I'm not says anything about which base has a lower IQ ,you are , your saying that ,but there is absolutely nothing in the article that states which party the congressional speakers are speaking too, it states that today Speaker's and writers are taught KISS = keep it simple stupid , to better communicate with their constituents which would be everyone in their districts not just the right or left , its done so people like you with a low IQ dont feel like the adult conversations are going right over your head

Jim the whack. Oh no. I was just cutting the links that didn't work. So much
for the latest umpteenth conspiracy theory of yours. The only "one" that CNN is
so in awe of is the Tea Party. you say you have no use even for Fox. Yes,
I get the picture. You're so far gone even Fox isn't extreme enough for you.
You're wrong again. [So what else is new?] I'm not stuck on Obama at all.
When he cozies up to Wall Street and caves on the Public Option, and caves
on ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and tries to act like a republican
I call him on it. I am however sure that you got a picture of Grover Norquist
that you stare at, and drool over, and do something else over. [I can't spell that
act out here.] "Oh and Joe it's not the stories the run you stump” What? That
doesn’t make any sense.
BTW Let me help you out a little bit. To make a capital letter, hold the shift
key and the letter at the same time. It's the button key on the far left side of the keyboard, second from the bottom. The apostrophe key is next to the enter key center right on the keyboard. For the period key move two keys over to the right from the "m" letter near the bottom of the keyboard. I’m surprised you did not know all that, because you’re always bragging about your superior republican IQ.

Hi Sonia , your here early !! all done shock therapy for the day ?

Nice to see you showing your true colors Jim, class act!

Sonia,
If you think that one was something, you should read some of his other posts!
[And with that impressive 3 digit IQ he keeps claiming to have, why does he
continue to spell “you’re” as ”your”? Just asking]

Sonia, when I'm talking to 12yr olds I find you need to speak to them on a level they understand